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I’m sure all of you have heard of the bus stabbing in Canada, but I just have to get all this down before it’s deleted. The first story is half hilarious, half disturbing, and the second article is just plain..terrifying. In my opinion, the second article is more gruesome than the first (ya gotta think about it)
Man stabbed, beheaded on Greyhound bus by apparent stranger
Gabrielle Giroday and Ian Hitchen, Canwest News Service Published: Thursday, July 31, 2008
BRANDON, Man. — Screaming passengers fled in terror from a Greyhound bus as an unidentified fellow passenger suddenly stabbed a man sleeping next to him, decapitated him and waved the severed head at horrified witnesses standing outside.
The apparently unprovoked assault left 36 men, women and children stranded Wednesday night on the shoulder of the darkening Trans-Canada Highway near Portage la Prairie, Man., about 85 kilometres west of Winnipeg, watching while the bus driver and a driver of a nearby truck shut the crazed attacker inside the bus with the mangled victim. Reports Friday said the suspect tried to eat parts of the victim.
At a media conference Thursday afternoon, RCMP confirmed they have a suspect — who is not believed to be from Manitoba — in custody, but offered few new details about this baffling homicide. The suspect, a man in his 40s, is expected to be formally charged today.
“By the time the police arrived, the driver and the remaining passengers had all safely exited the bus,” said Sgt. Steve Colwell.
He said officers could see the man walking around inside the bus, but said he refused to exit. The standoff lasted for hours.
“At 1:28 a.m., the suspect . . . attempted to jump out of the bus after breaking a window. He was immediately subdued and arrested without incident and is currently in RCMP custody,” Sgt. Colwell said.
The victim’s name has not been released but a number of tribute groups on the social networking Web site Facebook identified him as 22-year-old Tim McLean, a carnival worker from Winnipeg.
The Facebook group posted early Friday entitled R.I.P. Tim McLean lamented the young man’s death.
“R.I.P Tim McLean, You are loved and you will be missed dearly!” the site description read.
McLean’s father, Tim McLean Sr., told CBC News on Thursday night that he was in the process of trying to get confirmation from the police that his son was, in fact, the victim of attack.
Witness Garnet Caton said the attack was unprovoked.
“The guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off,” said Mr. Caton, 26, a passenger on the Edmonton-to-Winnipeg bus.
“Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock. . . . Everybody was running, screaming off the bus.”
Mr. Caton said the attacker was only on the bus for a brief time, after boarding in western Manitoba.
Passenger Cody Olmstead said he had been watching a movie on the bus just before the attack began.
“We were watching Zorro; next thing I know, I hear someone screaming.”
Mr. Olmstead, 21, told reporters he had smoked a cigarette earlier in the trip with the victim, who got on the bus in Edmonton.
He said the victim said he was going to Winnipeg.
After the bus pulled over and the terrified passengers fled, Mr. Olmstead said the attacker was taunting those outside with the victim’s severed head.
“He came back, standing in the doorway with the head, looked at him, dropped the head and went back and started cutting buddy back up.”
He said when police showed up, the taunting continued.
“He come up and picks the head up and he’s waving it in the window. I just smoked a cigarette with this man earlier — like, the head. He’s shaking it back and forth in the window.”
Mr. Caton said he and other passengers prevented the attacker from getting off the blood-soaked bus by threatening him with makeshift weapons — a hammer and a crowbar.
“We were telling him, ‘Stay put, stay put, stay there, don’t try to come out.’ He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back. I’m not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up,” he said, adding officers rushed them away.
Mr. Caton and other passengers said the attacker and his victim, who was listening to music on headphones, were sitting together at the rear of the bus, and the attack appeared to be unprovoked; no words were exchanged.
He told a TV station the attacker had actually changed seats to sit next to his victim just before the killing.
Mr. Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as bald and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Mr. Caton, adding he was struck by how calm the man was.
“There was no rage or anything. He was like a robot, stabbing the guy,” he said.
Mr. Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was wearing hip-hop clothing and appeared to be around 20 years of age.
After the killing, the other passengers were later taken to Brandon, Man., to be interviewed by police and to stay overnight at a hotel there.
Crisis counsellors were also at the hotel to provide support to the passengers, and counsellors could be seen chatting with them outside the hotel as groups went out to local stores for snacks or to smoke cigarettes.
One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker.
“The first thing I heard was something like a terrible type [of] yowl, and that was from the guy who got stabbed,” said an elderly woman on the bus, from Winnipeg.
The woman and her adult daughter said they were three or four rows in front of the man when the attack began.
“[My daughter said] ‘Oh my God,’ and everybody else started screaming,” she said. “They had terror in their eyes.”
Two other passengers on the bus, a 22-year-old man and a 21-year-old woman from France, said they were heading to Winnipeg after visiting the woman’s father in Whitehorse. The 22-year-old man said in French that he saw a man holding a long knife repeatedly stab another passenger. He and his girlfriend said they were shocked by the attack, and the isolation in the middle of the prairie when it occurred.
“There was nowhere to go,” she said.
Speaking in Quebec City, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said the issue of safety on buses may need to be examined more closely once the legal process of this case is over.
“We’re never closed to looking at how Canadians can be more safe and more secure,” Mr. Day told reporters in Quebec on Thursday. “This particular incident, as horrific as it is, is obviously extremely rare.”
Greyhound spokesman Eric Wesley, speaking from Texas, said drivers are trained to get help as soon as they can when incidents occur.
“This is very rare, unique occurrence. Bus transportation is one of the safest modes of transportation. This is highly unique that something like this happened,” he said. “Our drivers are trained to provide the safest travel for all our passengers, and every time an incident occurs, they know to pull the bus over and call 911.”
Mr. Wesley said counselling will be provided and monetary compensation will be determined on an individual basis.
“We are going to do whatever we need to provide the passengers with counselling or any other measures to make sure they’re taken care of.”
With files from Canwest News Service, Global News
Someone tries to cash in on Manitoba bus beheading
Aug 19, 2008 05:43 PM
THE CANADIAN PRESS
WINNIPEG–Someone claiming to be a sister of the young man stabbed and beheaded on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba last month has been trying to use the horrific killing to collect money.
The unidentified person posted messages on the Facebook social-networking site last week, claiming to be Tim McLean’s eldest sister, Amanda.
“I thank you all for your support of our family. It has been hard to deal with, but life must go on,” one message read.
“If you would like to make a donation to help our family, we have set up a PayPal account to do so. Contact for more details.”
The impostor also contacted Ron Schinners, who had set up a tribute page to McLean, with a story of financial hardship. The family was having a hard time paying for all the funeral expenses, Schinners was told via instant messaging, and had to quit jobs to help each other through the ordeal.
Schinners was so moved by the story that he turned control of his Facebook tribute page over to the person he believed was the victim’s sister – despite never having met her or talked to her on the phone.
“I was doing it out of the kindness of my heart, but I was also being deceived and I felt really stupid,” Schinners said today from his home in Port Alberni, B.C.
The pleas for donations were on a handful of McLean tribute pages for a couple of days before people got suspicious. They pointed out the McLean family had already set up an account to accept donations at branches of TD-Canada Trust.
Schinners eventually heard from the real Amanda McLean. At the same time, someone reported the matter to the RCMP and the person posting as Amanda McLean was removed from Facebook, he said.
Manitoba RCMP would not confirm whether an investigation was under way, citing privacy laws.
McLean, a travelling carnival worker, was on his way home to Winnipeg from Edmonton on July 30 when he was attacked onboard the bus.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton has been charged with second-degree murder. He is undergoing a psychiatric assessment and his next court date is set for Sept. 8.
So I went to Yahoo! and right on the home page, and all I see is, CONTROVERSY OVER GOLDEN COMPASS MOVIE!!!!!!! WATCH FIRST 5 MINUTES – SEE WHAT YOU THINK! plastered all over the front (not really, I’m exaggerating people).
So of course, I have to watch it. Movie Link. Right off the bat, not even a minute in – the narrator says, “There are many universes” WHAT!!! Did these people not take English class??? Anyway, the movie clip goes on. Then BAM! You can’t talk about dust! What!! A whole field of study, gone! All the history learned, all the other fields of study that rely on the study of rocks and such, all the economic opportunities created from geology, gone. Craziness… Plus, she, the main character, says something along the lines of “Stop! If you value your life you will not go any further“, yet she backs up, allowing the person she’s talking to move closer. Strange little movie, if you ask me.
Really though, the controversy is the Christians/Catholics are pissed (so what else is new?) because they’re being depicted as evil villians (again, I ask what else is new?). “Evil in Pullman’s books [The ones The Golden Compass is based on] is represented by the church, called the Magisterium, whose acolytes kidnap orphans across England to subject them to horrible experiments in the frozen northern wastelands.” (Yahoo.com) What do they want, an Index of Banned Media?? Eh, forget them, they didn’t like A Wrinkle in Time or Bridge to Terabithia either. Weirdos.