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I’m sure all of you have heard of the bus stabbing in Canada, but I just have to get all this down before it’s deleted. The first story is half hilarious, half disturbing, and the second article is just plain..terrifying. In my opinion, the second article is more gruesome than the first (ya gotta think about it)
Man stabbed, beheaded on Greyhound bus by apparent stranger
Gabrielle Giroday and Ian Hitchen, Canwest News Service Published: Thursday, July 31, 2008
BRANDON, Man. — Screaming passengers fled in terror from a Greyhound bus as an unidentified fellow passenger suddenly stabbed a man sleeping next to him, decapitated him and waved the severed head at horrified witnesses standing outside.
The apparently unprovoked assault left 36 men, women and children stranded Wednesday night on the shoulder of the darkening Trans-Canada Highway near Portage la Prairie, Man., about 85 kilometres west of Winnipeg, watching while the bus driver and a driver of a nearby truck shut the crazed attacker inside the bus with the mangled victim. Reports Friday said the suspect tried to eat parts of the victim.
At a media conference Thursday afternoon, RCMP confirmed they have a suspect — who is not believed to be from Manitoba — in custody, but offered few new details about this baffling homicide. The suspect, a man in his 40s, is expected to be formally charged today.
“By the time the police arrived, the driver and the remaining passengers had all safely exited the bus,” said Sgt. Steve Colwell.
He said officers could see the man walking around inside the bus, but said he refused to exit. The standoff lasted for hours.
“At 1:28 a.m., the suspect . . . attempted to jump out of the bus after breaking a window. He was immediately subdued and arrested without incident and is currently in RCMP custody,” Sgt. Colwell said.
The victim’s name has not been released but a number of tribute groups on the social networking Web site Facebook identified him as 22-year-old Tim McLean, a carnival worker from Winnipeg.
The Facebook group posted early Friday entitled R.I.P. Tim McLean lamented the young man’s death.
“R.I.P Tim McLean, You are loved and you will be missed dearly!” the site description read.
McLean’s father, Tim McLean Sr., told CBC News on Thursday night that he was in the process of trying to get confirmation from the police that his son was, in fact, the victim of attack.
Witness Garnet Caton said the attack was unprovoked.
“The guy just took a knife out and stabbed him, started stabbing him like crazy and cut his head off,” said Mr. Caton, 26, a passenger on the Edmonton-to-Winnipeg bus.
“Some people were puking, some people were crying, other people were in shock. . . . Everybody was running, screaming off the bus.”
Mr. Caton said the attacker was only on the bus for a brief time, after boarding in western Manitoba.
Passenger Cody Olmstead said he had been watching a movie on the bus just before the attack began.
“We were watching Zorro; next thing I know, I hear someone screaming.”
Mr. Olmstead, 21, told reporters he had smoked a cigarette earlier in the trip with the victim, who got on the bus in Edmonton.
He said the victim said he was going to Winnipeg.
After the bus pulled over and the terrified passengers fled, Mr. Olmstead said the attacker was taunting those outside with the victim’s severed head.
“He came back, standing in the doorway with the head, looked at him, dropped the head and went back and started cutting buddy back up.”
He said when police showed up, the taunting continued.
“He come up and picks the head up and he’s waving it in the window. I just smoked a cigarette with this man earlier — like, the head. He’s shaking it back and forth in the window.”
Mr. Caton said he and other passengers prevented the attacker from getting off the blood-soaked bus by threatening him with makeshift weapons — a hammer and a crowbar.
“We were telling him, ‘Stay put, stay put, stay there, don’t try to come out.’ He tried to get the bus working and the bus driver disabled the bus somehow in the back. I’m not sure how he did it, and at that point, I think the police showed up,” he said, adding officers rushed them away.
Mr. Caton and other passengers said the attacker and his victim, who was listening to music on headphones, were sitting together at the rear of the bus, and the attack appeared to be unprovoked; no words were exchanged.
He told a TV station the attacker had actually changed seats to sit next to his victim just before the killing.
Mr. Caton described the man who attacked the passenger as bald and wearing sunglasses. He seemed oblivious to others when the stabbing occurred, said Mr. Caton, adding he was struck by how calm the man was.
“There was no rage or anything. He was like a robot, stabbing the guy,” he said.
Mr. Caton said the victim boarded in Edmonton, was wearing hip-hop clothing and appeared to be around 20 years of age.
After the killing, the other passengers were later taken to Brandon, Man., to be interviewed by police and to stay overnight at a hotel there.
Crisis counsellors were also at the hotel to provide support to the passengers, and counsellors could be seen chatting with them outside the hotel as groups went out to local stores for snacks or to smoke cigarettes.
One small boy, who was with an adult man and woman, was given a plush teddy bear by a crisis health worker.
“The first thing I heard was something like a terrible type [of] yowl, and that was from the guy who got stabbed,” said an elderly woman on the bus, from Winnipeg.
The woman and her adult daughter said they were three or four rows in front of the man when the attack began.
“[My daughter said] ‘Oh my God,’ and everybody else started screaming,” she said. “They had terror in their eyes.”
Two other passengers on the bus, a 22-year-old man and a 21-year-old woman from France, said they were heading to Winnipeg after visiting the woman’s father in Whitehorse. The 22-year-old man said in French that he saw a man holding a long knife repeatedly stab another passenger. He and his girlfriend said they were shocked by the attack, and the isolation in the middle of the prairie when it occurred.
“There was nowhere to go,” she said.
Speaking in Quebec City, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said the issue of safety on buses may need to be examined more closely once the legal process of this case is over.
“We’re never closed to looking at how Canadians can be more safe and more secure,” Mr. Day told reporters in Quebec on Thursday. “This particular incident, as horrific as it is, is obviously extremely rare.”
Greyhound spokesman Eric Wesley, speaking from Texas, said drivers are trained to get help as soon as they can when incidents occur.
“This is very rare, unique occurrence. Bus transportation is one of the safest modes of transportation. This is highly unique that something like this happened,” he said. “Our drivers are trained to provide the safest travel for all our passengers, and every time an incident occurs, they know to pull the bus over and call 911.”
Mr. Wesley said counselling will be provided and monetary compensation will be determined on an individual basis.
“We are going to do whatever we need to provide the passengers with counselling or any other measures to make sure they’re taken care of.”
With files from Canwest News Service, Global News
Someone tries to cash in on Manitoba bus beheading
Aug 19, 2008 05:43 PM
THE CANADIAN PRESS
WINNIPEG–Someone claiming to be a sister of the young man stabbed and beheaded on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba last month has been trying to use the horrific killing to collect money.
The unidentified person posted messages on the Facebook social-networking site last week, claiming to be Tim McLean’s eldest sister, Amanda.
“I thank you all for your support of our family. It has been hard to deal with, but life must go on,” one message read.
“If you would like to make a donation to help our family, we have set up a PayPal account to do so. Contact for more details.”
The impostor also contacted Ron Schinners, who had set up a tribute page to McLean, with a story of financial hardship. The family was having a hard time paying for all the funeral expenses, Schinners was told via instant messaging, and had to quit jobs to help each other through the ordeal.
Schinners was so moved by the story that he turned control of his Facebook tribute page over to the person he believed was the victim’s sister – despite never having met her or talked to her on the phone.
“I was doing it out of the kindness of my heart, but I was also being deceived and I felt really stupid,” Schinners said today from his home in Port Alberni, B.C.
The pleas for donations were on a handful of McLean tribute pages for a couple of days before people got suspicious. They pointed out the McLean family had already set up an account to accept donations at branches of TD-Canada Trust.
Schinners eventually heard from the real Amanda McLean. At the same time, someone reported the matter to the RCMP and the person posting as Amanda McLean was removed from Facebook, he said.
Manitoba RCMP would not confirm whether an investigation was under way, citing privacy laws.
McLean, a travelling carnival worker, was on his way home to Winnipeg from Edmonton on July 30 when he was attacked onboard the bus.
Vince Weiguang Li, 40, of Edmonton has been charged with second-degree murder. He is undergoing a psychiatric assessment and his next court date is set for Sept. 8.
Why I’m veggie:
1) Cruelty to animals
Most of today’s animals on factory farms are treated horribly- they are crammed into sheds, small wire and gestation crates, feedlots where they can’t even turn around, and many other types of cages. They are deprived of exercise so that all their bodies’ energy goes toward producing flesh, eggs, or milk. Companies do this, to save money- cages that are comfortable for animals are expensive. Many animals will not even see the outside until they are loaded up and taken to the slaughter house. Not only that, but many are forced to consume hormones so that they will be more meaty and to keep them alive in conditions that would otherwise kill them. Many are genetically altered to grow faster or to produce much more milk or eggs than they would naturally. Many animals become crippled under their own weight and die within inches of water and food. They are also subject to neglect, mutilation, electrocution, genetic manipulation, and drug regimens that cause chronic pain and crippling, not to mention that they are transported through all weather extremes, and are subject gruesome, violent, and painful slaughter. These animals have no legal protection from this- the companies employing these methods cannot be punished since there are no laws against it (as of yet).
2) Health reasons- for myself, the environment, and the world.
Consuming a well-planned vegetarian diets provides me with all the nutrients that I need, minus all the nasty saturated fat, cholesterol, and contaminants found in animal flesh, eggs, and dairy products, that can cause higher rates of heart disease, high blood pressure, high cholesterol levels, hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and cancer. Not only that, but vegetarians are less likely to be obese than meat-eaters, because we cut out so much “bad” fat, so hey, it’s even better! The consumption of meat, eggs, and dairy products has also been strongly linked to osteoporosis, Alzheimer’s, asthma, and male impotence (but I don’t have to worry about that). Scientists have also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than their meat-eating friends, and, on average, live six to 10 years longer than meat-eaters. Studies have shown that vegetarian kids grow taller (DAD!!!), have higher IQs than their classmates, and they are at a reduced risk for heart disease, obesity, diabetes, and other diseases in the long run. Studies have shown that even older people who switch to a vegetarian or vegan diet can prevent and even reverse many chronic ailments.
For the enviro, raising animals for food damages the environment more than just about anything else that we (humans) do. Many leading environmental organizations, including the National Audubon Society, the WorldWatch Institute, the Sierra Club, and the Union of Concerned Scientists, agree with that statement. Growing food for the meat industry’s animals requires massive amounts of land, food, energy, and water and even contributes to animal suffering.Vast tracts of land are needed to grow crops to feed the billions of animals we raise for food each year. Of all the agricultural land in the U.S., nearly 80% is used in some way to raise animals—that’s roughly half of the total land mass of the U.S. More than 260 million acres of U.S. forest have been cleared to create cropland to grow grain to feed farmed animals. The U.S. certainly isn’t alone in its misuse of land for animal agriculture. As the world’s appetite for meat increases, countries across the globe are bulldozing huge swaths of land to make more room for animals and the crops to feed them. From tropical rain forests in Brazil to ancient pine forests in China, entire ecosystems are being destroyed to make room for meat. In the United States and around the world, overgrazing leads to the extinction of indigenous plant and animal species, soil erosion, and eventually desertification that renders once-fertile land barren. While factory farms are ruining our land, the commercial fishing industry is pushing entire oceanic ecosystems to the brink of collapse. Commercial fishing boats indiscriminately pull as many fish as they can out of the sea, leaving ecological devastation and the bodies of nontarget animals in their wake. Fishing methods like bottom trawling and long-lining have emptied millions of miles of ocean and pushed some marine species to the brink of extinction. The overuse of resources, unchecked water and air pollution, soil erosion, and total disregard for other life forms is wreaking havoc on Earth!
Not only is the meat industry happily destroying our environment, but the slaughterhouse workers are being completely ignored. They have “the most dangerous factory job in America.” The industry has no (and doesn’t want any) regulation for the working conditions it’s employees endure. Regulations such as slowing down slaughter lines and supplying workers with appropriate safety gear, and insurance is totally out of the question to them because these changes would cut into companies’ bottom lines. These companies are working hard to prevent any type of regulation. Between 2000 and 2005, agribusinesses funneled more than $140 million to politicians, who promised to ensured that laws that might protect consumers, animals, and the environment (but might cost big companies money) did not pass. Chronic sickness, brain damage, poisoned waterways, elevated cancer rates, and even death, plague the communities surrounding animal farms, while the government does nothing to protect it’s citizens or regulate the industry. The unfortunate truth is that the federal government does very little to protect human health, animal welfare, and our environment from the factory-farming industry’s negligence. Not only that, but the meat industry is contributing to world hunger. Our meat-based diet is partly to blame, because the land, water, and other resources that could be used to grow food for human beings are being used to grow crops for farmed animals instead. According to a recent report by Compassion in World Framing, “[c]rops that could be used to feed the hungry are instead being used to fatten animals raised for food.” In fact, it takes up to 16 pounds of grain to produce just 1 pound of edible animal flesh. Because the industrial world is exporting grain to developing countries and importing the meat that is produced with it, farmers who are trying to feed themselves are being driven off their land. Their efficient, plant-based agricultural model is being replaced with intensive livestock rearing, which also pollutes the air and water and utterly destroys once-fertile land. See all the problems meat causes!
Here is a list of questions/statements I’ve heard/been asked frequently, with answers:
“But God made animals for us to eat—we have ‘dominion’ over them”
If you are religious, and you find yourself asking this question, just think about it. “Dominion” doesn’t mean “domination and exploitation” does it? All the world’s prominent religions teach the importance of both compassion and mercy. The choice to eat meat, dairy products, and eggs is a violent one—it supports abuse. Even if religious beliefs allow people to eat these products, they certainly don’t require them to do so. Aside from the environmental/human consequences of eating animals, which are reason enough for faith-based people to adopt a vegan/veggie diet, God created animals with needs, desires, (which are usually denied) and a well-developed capacity for pain, which they certainly experience when they’re in a factory-farm setting.
“I didn’t kill the animal!”
Maybe you didn’t personally kill the animal, but that’s arguably worse because you’re distancing yourself from the suffering for which you’re responsible. Basically, you’re in denial about having any fault in the matter whatsoever. Whenever you purchase meat, you pay to have the abuse and the killing done for you. You’re supporting the killing.
“Don’t humans need to eat meat to stay healthy?”
The American Dietetic Association and the World Health Organization, among other groups, point out that vegan/veggie diets provide everything we need and that, in fact, they cut out a lot of the stuff that’s horrible for us. Thus, vegans/veggies are usually healthier than people who consume foods derived from animals. Research has shown that the risk of developing heart disease among meat-eaters is 50 percent higher than is the risk for vegetarians. Also, vegetarians have only 40 percent of the cancer rate of meat-eaters. The consumption of meat and dairy products has been conclusively linked with diabetes, arthritis, osteoporosis, clogged arteries, obesity, asthma, and impotence. Scientists have also found that vegetarians have stronger immune systems than their meat-eating friends, so they are less susceptible to everyday illnesses like the flu.
“Don’t vegetarians have difficulty getting enough protein?”
Protein is found in abundance in plant foods, and scientific studies consistently show that vegetarians get plenty of protein. Great vegetarian sources of protein include legumes and foods made from them (e.g., beans, peas, lentils, peanuts, peanut butter, tofu [yummy!!], tempeh, soy milk, and soy-based “meats”, nuts, seeds, nutritional yeast, and whole grains). It was once thought that various plant foods had to be eaten together in order to get their full protein value, but research has shown that this is not the case; a varied diet of nutritious plant foods provides all the protein that you need, plus lots of health-boosting vitamins and minerals. Unlike animal protein, plant-based protein sources usually also contain healthy fiber and complex carbohydrates. Animal products are often high in artery-clogging cholesterol and saturated fat, and consumption of animal protein has been linked to some types of cancer.
I thought this was very intersting:
“Eating meat is natural—it’s been going on for thousands of years. Our bodies are designed that way.”
Dr. Milton Mills, in his essay on human physiology, “A Comparative Anatomy of Eating,” explains that animals who eat meat have approximately 19 physical characteristics that humans do not have. Humans have to kill the bacteria in meat by cooking it before they can consume it—this means that humans are the only species that has to cook meat so eating it won’t be fatal. Eating even cooked meat is hazardous to our health in the long term, though, because our bodies aren’t designed to digest it. The consumption of cooked meat contributes to heart disease, cancer, and many other health problems. Read more about the fact that humans are not designed to eat meat. PLEASE, see the next question for more info on this.
“Animals kill other animals for food, so why shouldn’t we?”
Darwin’s “survival of the fittest” theory is an accurate description of “nature’s law.” But the animals who kill other animals for food do so because they have no choice in the matter. They would starve to death otherwise. However, we do have a choice. We can hold ourselves to a higher standard in our interactions with each other and with the animals we love and protect—animals like dogs and cats. We do not need meat to survive!
“What’s wrong with eating ‘free range’ eggs and ‘organic’ meat?”
Whether you’re talking about “free range”/”organic” or “conventional” meat, dairy products, and eggs, the health and environmental consequences of using animals for food are the same. Also, animals on “free range” and “organic” farms still suffer the same abuse and neglect that all animals used for food must endure. The term organic is regulated, however “natural”, “free range” and “free roaming” are not regulated by the government, so any product can wear these labels no matter how badly the animals have been treated. Animals on these farms still suffer mutilations shortly after birth—their sensitive beaks and tails are cut off, their horns are ripped from their heads, and they are castrated—all without painkillers. Since the “free range” label is unregulated, many animals on these farms are crammed by the thousands into sheds and never set foot outside. Even if they were given access to the outdoors, farmed animals are still bred to grow so large that many of them can no longer walk. Like all animals used for food, animals on “free range” and “organic” farms are killed when they’re only a few months old, and their deaths are just as gruesome as those of animals on conventional farms. Their throats are cut, often while they are still completely conscious and struggling to escape, and many of them are still alive when their bodies are hacked apart. In short, there are no “free range” or “nicer” slaughterhouses.
“Native Americans have been hunting and eating meat forever. Are you saying that indigenous groups need to give up their traditions?”
Like tribal people all over the world, Native Americans traditionally ate mainly plant-based diets. Archeological evidence shows that our ancestors across the globe only turned to eating the flesh of animals in times of scarcity. Not only that, but with most Native American tribes, they prayed to and thanked the animal for giving it’s life for their benefit, and they used every last bit of the animal. Nothing was wasted. Eating meat today is unnecessary and unhealthy, and many Native Americans are returning to their traditional plant-based diets.
“Don’t plants feel pain?”
Nope! Plants are alive and do respond to light and water, but they don’t feel pain. Plants, when stressed, release a chemical called ethylene. This chemical indicates that the plant needs to increase cell growth or take other measures against the perceived stressor. Scientists measured levels of ethylene released from stressed plants by “listening” to them using lasers until a certain frequency was measured. While this research shows that plants might have a stress-avoidance response, it is quite a stretch to refer to this as “pain”. The ability to experience pain requires a brain, a central nervous system, and pain receptors, which animals have, but plants lack. They also lack the ability to move away from sources of stress, an evolutionary trait linked with the ability to feel pain. We all understand that there is a huge difference between cutting your lawn and cutting off a cat’s tail and between breaking up a head of lettuce and bashing in a dog’s head.
“If you were starving on a boat at sea, and there was only an animal on the boat, would you eat the animal?”
Uh, yeah. Humans will go all out to save their own lives, even if it means hurting someone/something innocent. Hello, zombies don’t care if they are related to the person they’re eating, they’re just trying to survive. However, since there is an array of meat-free foods to choose from in every grocery store, these examples/this question aren’t/isn’t relevant to our daily choices :)
“Do you care more about animals than you do about humans?”
No, but since people are a lot more capable doing something about/expressing their dissatisfaction, animals need representation that will be recognized and taken seriously by those in power!
And now, my most favorite question:
“Wasn’t Hitler a vegetarian?”
Actually, contrary to popular belief, he wasn’t. At times, Hitler claimed that he didn’t eat meat because he wanted to be seen as someone who was only focused on the needs of the German people. However, Hitler was actually a devoted carnivore, and his consumption of fish, pigeons, and sausages is extensively documented. Not only that, but vegetarians were forbidden to organize new groups or to start publications during the Reich. A many leading vegetarian magazines, such as the Vegetarian Warte, was forced to suspended publication. A competing journal, The Vegetarian Press, was allowed to limp along during the Nazi years, but it was prohibited from using the term “vegetarian movement,” and it was barred from publishing the time and place of vegetarian gatherings. Consequently, vegetarians willing to run the risk of imprisonment or worse, were compelled to meet in secret. See below for an article about Hitler’s lack of vegetarianism.
Good sources to check out about becoming vegetarian:
GoVeg.com – Now normally I wouldn’t recommend going to a
PETA-run website (I think they give the whole veggie/vegan community a bad name, even though their actions are usually done with good intentions), but this website is really good. It contains very useful information (a lot of the factual information above I got from this site), and excellent recipes.
VRG.org – Questions about SOY? Heard about those cancer risks? Yeah I did too, and decided to do some research on it- turns out, it’s complete bullshit. So don’t worry, you can eat as much soy nuts and tofu as you want- within reason of course :)
JesusVeg.com. This link provides information from a Christian perspective about why people should be vegetarian, as well as links to additional Web sites that address animal issues from non-Christian perspectives.
I really wish that these kinds of articles weren’t written. I mean, I wish that these kinds of events didn’t occur- controversy over sex ed???? I mean, hello! It’s your body, don’t you want to know what’s going on?? Don’t you want to know how to defend yourself from the deadly human immunodeficiency virus? Don’t you want your children, family, and friends to know how to defend themselves too? The “controversy” makes no sense..”It’s corrupting the children” my ass! You shouldn’t have the children paying for your stupidity. This also hits home because my dad’s side of the family is Indian/Sri Lankan.
Sex education creates storm in AIDS-stricken India
By Krittivas Mukherjee Mon Jul 16, 9:37 AM ET
MUMBAI (Reuters) – Moves to bring sex out of the closet in largely conservativehave kicked up a morality debate between educators who say sex education will reduce HIV rates, and critics who fear it will corrupt young minds.
It’s an emotive issue pitting modernists against conservatives in a country with the world’s highest number of HIV cases at about 5.7 million, a figure that experts say may balloon to over 20 million by 2010.
Biology teacherSeqeira infuriates conservatives in India every time she tells her students about masturbation, condoms and homosexuality.
Seqeira is doing exactly what India’s federal government wants the country’s 29 states and seven federally-administered regions to do — fight the exponential spread of HIV/AIDS with information on safe sex.
“Sex education is the best way to prepare my students for adolescence and protect them from HIV/AIDS,” said Seqeira, who teaches at a private school in Maharashtra state, western India.
But the governments of, and don’t agree. They have banned sex education at public schools because they say the learning modules are too explicit, and some pictures are too graphic.
Private schools are able to continue the lessons, but many have watered them down to avoid controversy.
The southern states ofand — considered among India’s progressive states with high literacy rates — are also considering bans.
The Indian government has been unable to stop these bans even as it seeks to curb the spread of. In India, about 86 percent of HIV infections occur through sexual intercourse, one key reason being that migrant workers in cities visit prostitutes and infect their wives when they return home.
Ignorance about sex is widespread in the land of the Kama Sutra, where explicit sex acts are celebrated in ancient temple architecture.
But at home, mothers hesitate to talk to daughters about something as simple as menstruation, and even the basics of the human reproductive system are taught with much embarrassment in schools.
Experts are calling for a change in prudish attitudes to help counter the spread of HIV/AIDS. They say the winds of change must first blow through the country’s schools.
“Sex education does not mean you are encouraging sex which is how it’s interpreted,”, India’s minister for women and child development, told Reuters last month.
“Sex education is an insurance for your child. It will protect your child.”
Among the course elements that have generated much heat are discussions on homosexuality and descriptions of sex acts, including masturbation.
Proponents of the ban say the sex education course — modeled on those taught in many Western countries, will make students imbibe “decadent western morality.”
They point to polls showing that an increasing number of young people — mostly India’s moneyed youngsters that live in cities — have postponed marriage, but not sex.
An India Today poll revealed one in four Indian women between 18 and 30 in 11 cities had sex before marriage. One in three said she was open to having a sexual relationship even if she was not in love.
“is spreading because of cultural decadence and sexual anarchy,” said Shajar Khan, a prominent student leader who opposes sex education at schools.
Analysts say conservative political parties, such as the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, India’s main opposition group, are panning sex education courses at least partly to make political capital out of opposing the West.
But for parents bringing up children in rapidly modernizing, sex education may be a matter of life and death.
“The argument that if you teach about sex the children are going to run out and have sex is very unfounded,” said Roshni Behuria, a mother of two girls.
“Killing the education bit won’t reduce the propensity towards sex. But it just might end up killing safe-sex ignorant young people.”